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April 23, 2008 10:06 AM PDT

Spyware Horror Story: Addicted to cracks

Posted by Jessica Dolcourt
Got your own spyware horror story? Share it with us.

In which two readers were burned by high-risk computing.

Submitted by Peter; Tamuning, Guam

Well, to begin with, I tried to get Microsoft Office Enterprise Edition from torrents site mininova.com. There was even a whole bunch of comments saying that it worked "great." So when it finally finished downloading, I opened it, and got it installed. It really did work "great." But then after a few times running it, things started to go wrong. So I tried deleting, but it keeps saying that its "write-protected." I opened the folder and deleted random files to see if that would delete the virus, but it didn't work. However, what I did find was a Notepad document with a bunch of instructions telling the computer to change all values to 3 or something like that. Now I still have the file because of my stupidity in thinking that there wasn't a price to pay. Any advice?

Submitted by Ivan; Rome, Italy

I'm a 12-year-old guy who I think knows way more about PCs than he should. Not long ago my friend came and installed a cracked version of an NHL hockey game. At first, I though it was cool and played it a little. However, once I restarted the computer, my CHKDSK service was running a complete hard drive scan, even though I didn't authorize it. Since it was late, I had to go to bed. I shut down my PC--let me tell you, that was a mistake, besides the fact that I wasted my money on Windows Vista!

The next morning when I turned on my computer, I got the Blue Screen of Death. Error code: 0x00000024. This means that a very important NTFS file was removed or misplaced during a system scan. I thought it was my mistake and that my parents would kill me.

However, the next day, my friend told me that when he was installing NHL, he forgot that he misplaced the crack icon for one of the viruses that he got from the Internet. Let me tell you something, you didn't want to be my friend then. Anyway, the solution was that I had to undergo a complete Vista reinstall, but I had to wait a whole three weeks for my father to buy the CD for me.

I did send my friend a little virus I made myself, though harmless. Now, I'm running Comodo Firewall Pro and AVG Anti-Virus 8.0.

Editor's response

Editor's Response

I guess some users insist on being moths, forever attracted to the flickering flame of crack sites and peer-to-peer downloads, for the same reasons that everyone else engages in risky behavior. Free programs, music, and games are the glimmering rewards, but over the years, readers have been singed by some accompanying viruses. (Here's another example.)

Maybe it's that law-abiding school mom streak in me, but weren't you guys kind of asking for it? Crack and P2P sites are absolutely notorious for ladling out code you don't want along with the downloads you do, some of which end up jammed or have been purposely jimmied to carry malicious software. I can't condone illegal acquisitions of any type, and I won't tell you how to game the system, but there are applications out there anyone can--should--use to scan files before they're downloaded and installed. If your regular antivirus software doesn't have that feature, I'd recommend at least the light (free) version of link-scanning software for any user.

Even folks who regularly download from normally OK sites should consider bumping up to pro versions of the software, which digitally eyes instant-message links, software signatures, and the malicious software payload that could be packed in with all the good stuff. AVG Anti-Virus 8.0, which Ivan mentioned, recently padded their product with the capability to do just that when they bought the makers of LinkScanner Lite and LinkScanner Pro. AVG Anti-Virus 8.0 Free Edition, which is expected to release this Thursday, incorporates the light version of the link-scanning software.

OpenOffice.org

Peter asked for advice to his dilemma, the false move that got him a bunk enterprise-edition of Microsoft Office. It's pretty simple, actually. Don't go for Microsoft. What you want is product, not brand. If your goal is to get a powerful office suite for free, excellent desktop and Web ware alternatives have emerged as viable contenders that also drop the cost. Try out OpenOffice.org, a multilanguage open-source productivity suite that does most of what Microsoft's application can do with text, spreadsheets, presentations, and HTML and XML documents. It earned a 5-star editorial review.

Zoho is another credible option, and a winner of the Webware 100, an annual user award based on Webware.com, CNET's site for Web application reviews. While Zoho's suite isn't quite as deep as Microsoft Office, it is broad, and offers the use of over 20 applications to engage everyday and business tasks.

Here's my final piece of advice for you guys, and really something every user should follow. Save all your installation disks, including printer drivers, boot-up disks, whatever you've got, and keep them all together, for example, in a big CD case. This goes for backup disks, too. Keep the CDs well organized and clearly labeled, and put the collection somewhere uncluttered--not back in a closet somewhere or in some random box. This way, when things goes wrong, as they almost always do at some point in a computer-owner's lifetime, the confidence you've built from knowing you have a reinstallation plan will offset the panic of losing months, perhaps years, worth of data.

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by JoyceNgo April 23, 2008 1:15 PM PDT
Wow that sounds terrible. This is why when you pirate programs, and cracks, you should be careful of what you download, install, find and use. This is why I stay away from cracked software :x
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by alice_b0wie April 23, 2008 5:53 PM PDT
not only do i not download p2p, crack, etc. i don't waste my time on free security programs that most likely will let anything thru it. QUIT BEING SO CHEAP, PEOPLE!
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by 0uroboros April 24, 2008 7:09 AM PDT
It's not a matter of being cheap but of being a working student. Avast (antivirus) and Comodo (firewall) are an incredibly effective (and free) pairing. Combine that with regular scans from AdAware, Spybot and CCleaner and I haven't had any problems with my system for the past few years. I also use Google's Docs for papers and presentations not only because it's free but so I can access them from anywhere. The same thing applies to my photo editing tools, star charts (astrophotography) and media player. Almost everything I use my system for is based on freeware apps with the exception of my games and music, which I buy (mostly) secondhand.

I also don't download from any torrent sites so I'm able to avoid much of this particular problem right there. Free doesn't mean cheap, just broke.
by moshebermanDOTcom April 24, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
I disagree. Nobody is being cheap. Money doesn't grow on trees (although it is made from paper, which is trees... ;) ) I personally don't spend money on software all that often because compters and computer programs have historically costed hundreds and thousands of dollars.

Instead of telling wveryone else not to be so cheap, get your priorities straight.
by styopashka April 24, 2008 5:33 AM PDT
As a matter of course I quick format and reinstall windows on all my computers about every 6 months. I keep windows on a separate small partition of about 10-15gb, and all my files on a larger storage partition. This setup makes reinstallation simple with little risk of losing important data--I've got it down to about 1 to 2 hours turn around time to install windows and all necessary drivers and apps.

Fresh reinstallations have many benefits the least of which include:
1. Getting rid of viruses you've picked up.
2. Completely wiping freeware or other software that you just don't use anymore. Some of these can be notoriously difficult to remove through the uninstallation process.
3. Streamlining and speeding up windows in general--all of the hard disk defragmenting in the world cannot equal a fresh install of the OS.
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by midfieldchip April 26, 2008 9:21 PM PDT
this sounds like a great idea. I'm really interested in doing this for my computer. I run those stupid defrag programs all the time and they just don't work well at all. How do you go about setting that up?
by DHXK3G April 24, 2008 6:50 AM PDT
It has NOTHING to do with being cheap! It DOES have EVERYTHING to do with the Software manufacturers being TOO GREEDY!

With the full version of MS Office 2007 being sold for almost $680, it is UNAVAILABLE to the middle-class working stiff. Before things like OpenOffice.org were available, I too, downloaded applications for free.

With the cost of production being less than 1 dollar, it is unconscionable that software companies build in so much profit. And before you talk about the cost of development, let me also remind you that MS also lets their CUSTOMERS QA their applications! New stuff gets put out into the public with so many bugs, that you have to wait for the 2nd or 3rd version before things are completely ironed out.

Software companies need to charge REASONABLE prices for STABLE software BEFORE we can say goodbye to the illegal download. We're tired of making people like Bill Gates rich, while we get that same damn error message in MS Word for the umpteenth time!
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by kahwedyich April 24, 2008 7:44 AM PDT
@ Ivan's comment :
Windows Vista does not have the Blue Screen of Death that earlier versions of windows have had. Instead of the blue screen, you can only get some pink-colored windows saying about the error, and thus the windows does not crush down like it used to do on XP. So if that "boy" says that he had a blue screen of death on Windows Vista, caused by a virus, all that I can say is LOL
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by ROBOCUB April 24, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
Doh! You shoulda just gotten a Mac.
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by moshebermanDOTcom April 24, 2008 8:59 AM PDT
Mac's are even MORE expensive than MS Office! The issue here was cost, which is why they tried to pirate Office in the first place!
by viequespr April 28, 2008 3:28 AM PDT
No MACs available at any store. They even waisted their money making the PC vs MAC comercial. It looks like the guy for MAC in the commercial hace a PC buy to get paid he got a free MAC.
by dayamjz April 24, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
This has NOTHING to do with software makers beign TOO GREEDY. Office 2007 Ultimate is not targeted for the middle class working stiff but rather a small to large business where spending 600 bucks will bring thousands of dollars in revenue. If you feel like your middle class salary is not enough there is always Office 2007 Student edition for 100 bucks which will get you Word Excel, Power point and OneNote or OpenOffice which although its free it will probably not fulfill what you can do with the Student Edition of Office 2007.
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by digitalbliss April 24, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
AVG 8 works really well....I'm surprised I have gone to a few sites just from clicking those stupid email ads that are SPAM and it said it was a bad website and reported a trojan downloader on it. Thank god for this new AVG :)
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by adkiller2k7 April 24, 2008 9:48 AM PDT
i wouldn't recommend AVG free, i recommend Avast! 4.8 Home Edition because it is free and has A LOT higher detection rates than AVG because it has very rare false positives, and the web shield that blocks virus download for free
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by viequespr April 28, 2008 3:44 AM PDT
You like Avast because it looks like a Media Player and you must be a music lover person. A virus program don't have to looks good, just need to get the job done. I love AVG free. BTW...avast looks like the old musicmach player.
by kford1040 April 24, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
For the record there is a lot of malicious code out there that actually gets attacted to legitimate files. I have found a worm attached to a HJT is known and only one spyware app found it.

And worse once this code gets on vista even reformatting doesn't work because you don't own that hard drive (sounds crazy) but since i've been through this for 2 months now I can tell you it's a nightmare. Avoid bluetooth and prescan ANY download. and always check for ADS.
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by kahwedyich April 24, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
Uhh just use Nod32. Scans every damn 1 and 0 that goes tru the CPU :D
If you aren't willing to spend a buck for a piece of software, then there are websites like www.nod321.com, where nod32 fans and enthusiasts daily give away they usernames/passwoeds which are about to expire, so you can change the username every week or so, and you'll have top protection, and btw, I think this is legal (well everything is relative), 'couse usernames are given by their owners as a gift
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by Trickmyster April 24, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
So we should all stop using cracks because these 2 people were idiots? He didn't even scan the file before opening it what a nub
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by Composer_1777 April 24, 2008 1:14 PM PDT
OMG please, u find a forum with CD keys or a key gen. You don;t install cracks directly... everyone should know that. Believe me nothing is better than Microfost Office; especially if you are in Higher Education.

This is b.s. ... KEY GEN IT UP
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by jackmeat April 24, 2008 2:25 PM PDT
The horror stories are from a moron, and a 12 year old "guy"??? is there even such a thing? wouldn't want to be his friend....quick let's all be scared of the 12 year old "guy" upset he got pwned. If you don't know what you are doing, don't do it. Yes there are virus/spyware etc. out there, and there also isn't. look before you leap, and if you do leap, call me. the dumb people pay my bills to fix their "dead" systems
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by gtdtm April 24, 2008 2:28 PM PDT
I just want to say, I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, but have you actually used open office? It isn't that good. It takes way too long to do tasks that are simple in Microsoft Office. Also, try Avast Home Edition. I find it protects quite well and doesn't bog my system down like the "Big Players" in computer security.
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by viequespr April 28, 2008 3:58 AM PDT
Thats the main problem, if you don't like to wait bad things happen all the time. I rather have my system running a little slower and have the protection than running fast while taking every hit. We used to do everything with paper and pencil, so anything still be fast to acomplish the task.
by RobD60 May 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
I have used Ooo for several years and, frankly, it's good enough for the average non-business user. Write an essay, insert tables, put in footnotes/endnotes, etc. The main problem isn't really speed but lack of extras and of help info, but you can find Ooo for Dummies and plenty of online help forums. IBM's Lotus Symphony Beta also has promise but opens slowly. Nicer interface, though.
by goodfellasparky April 24, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
Your problem is that you used www.mininova.com...this is a known spyware site to the community. You need to use www.mininova.org, be smart and always scan your stuff. Sorry for the troubles.
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by axe82 April 24, 2008 4:10 PM PDT
Well, with Programs costing an arm and a leg like Adobe... you cant blame the world for hacking! ... especially when a "company" like Adobe keeps upgrading there programs like photoshop 7 - CS3 ... and we have to pay it when it each time it comes out...
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by cashmoney90187 April 24, 2008 6:14 PM PDT
dont blame torrents site always scan any file you download
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by MoonRider_01 April 24, 2008 6:39 PM PDT
Well, you guys should just check the files before running 'em!

I love torrents.
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by sonymaster101 April 24, 2008 7:42 PM PDT
AND.. if he had gotten a mac and installed crack, he could have gotten a virus.. As the only known way to run a virus on a mac is to install it yourself... thus the crack.
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